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Old 16th May 2006, 06:07   #1 (permalink)
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Compostela Golf III Apartment Owners, Los Cristianos, Tenerife

We own an apartment on Compostella Golf III and have just found out it has been shut down for refurbishment. I have heard that it being upgraded to 5 key and should be open again in October.

Does anyone know what is going on with this complex?

If any other owners at Compostella are reading this please e-mail me!

Also, does anyone know where I stand with Spanish law. The management company from the complex have not informed us of the situation so I have had to offer a refund to my clients and cancelled the bookings which I had during the summer because of the lack of facilities resulting in quite a substantial loss in income.

The major holiday companies have also been affected because of this with many holidays have been changed or cancelled.

If anyone has any information please contact me, also if anyone has a contact telephone number for the complex it would be greatly appreciated because I am getting no response to the e-mails I keep sending.

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Old 16th May 2006, 07:49   #2 (permalink)
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Hello there!

Apparently it has been closed down because it was found there was no Touristic Licence in place for the complex. Coral Hotels who managed the majority of apartments there have pulled out and seem to have taken all of their equipment with them. When I visited about 10 days ago, there were 4 people around the pool, the reception was closed down, as were the supermarket and eating places. Nobody seems to know what is happening with it at the moment, although it seemed to be possible for private owners to use their apartments and the Pools. Sorry I can not be more help, if I hear anything more, I will post it here.

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Old 8th March 2007, 13:23   #3 (permalink)
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Any idea whats happening up there?

I was there in July 2006 and it rocked! Whole pool between about 20 visitors.

The entertainment, bars, pool tables etc are all gone though, as are most of the guests.

Nobody had any idea why it is "closed".

My sister is going to a private apt there in August and I've heard that its still in the "closed" state.

Anyone?
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Old 8th March 2007, 13:33   #4 (permalink)
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As far as I am aware, there is no change in the situation. There is no cedula for the development and legal proceedings are likely to take some considerable time and even then, the situation may not be resolved.

Common sense dictates that there has to be a solution. However ....
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Apparently it has been closed down because it was found there was no Touristic Licence in place for the complex.
If there was no Touristic Licence in place then I would assume it was built with a Residential one.

I understand that somehow??? a management company had been established on the complex and were all taking bookings through tour operators, which is in direct conflict with the Canarian Law of Tourismo which only allows individual private owners to rent out on a Residential complex.

I also understand that when informed of this breach all the tour operators immediately pulled out along with the management company, who also removed all the facilities ie; reception, supermarket, restaurants, etc, which it owned or leased.

This may not of course mean that the complex has a whole is CLOSED.

If it is a Residential complex then individual owners are collectivley responsible for operating and maintaining the communal facilities; pools, lifts, lighting, security, etc. and has such are free to continue to use their own apartments as they see fit assuming again that all other legal habitacions and permits are in place.
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If there was no Touristic Licence in place then I would assume it was built with a Residential one.
.... assuming again that all other legal habitacions and permits are in place.
They aren't - there is no cedula.

The last that I heard - as previosly mentioned ... there was no change in the situation.

I know that because of the legal situation - or lackof it - Unelco had discontinued the electric supply and the complex was being supplied by a generator. Following 'uproar' Unelco then reconnected the supply for a limited period whilst legal experts were trying to unravel the situation.

I'll try to find out what the latest situation is. I know of at least one Forum member that owns on there.
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If there was no Touristic Licence in place then I would assume it was built with a Residential one.
The trouble is that it is not a default option ... i.e. if not a touristic licence, then must be a residential one. Comp 3 was always meant, as I understand it, to be a touristic resort, built with a touristic licence, and operated as such. This is why the holiday company was operating from there, and operating in the way they were.

Yet it turns out that, somehow, this licence was never granted (possibly never even applied for, but I don´t KNOW that).

What mystifies me is how these purchases were ever notarized. Even allowing that estate agents can misrepresent things (and some are STILL selling apartments here despite the problems), and that lawyers can overlook things, what really perplexes me is that there are people with mortgages there. And if ever there were sticklers for detail, and getting all proper paperwork in place, it´s the banks.

Things APPEARED to check out, obviously ... or else the banks would NEVER have granted and notarized mortgages on these properties.

It is a complete mystery, and in my own opinion, the problem just cannot be as simple as a licence that was never formally processed. But as it stands, there is no touristic licence, (and therefore no licence at all) and therefore, as Mike says, no cedula de habitabilidad.

It will be good to see what you can find out, Mike, because I´ve drawn a blank. Everyone is saying they´re puzzled, but someone must know something. Either I´ve been talking to the wrong people, or someone is not being totally honest .....
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I'll try to find out what the latest situation is. I know of at least one Forum member that owns on there.
Heard a few whispers about Granada Park as well
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Yet it turns out that, somehow, this licence was never granted (possibly never even applied for, but I don´t KNOW that).
Very interesting Janet.

I was always under the impression that at least some sort of Licence HAD to be obtained before construction could commence.

Its also interesting that on the face of it there has been very litle vocal complaint from owners to date at least.

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I almost purchased there, but a the last minute "Janice" at Horizon went with the valuer to look at the property and it was all shut up.Lucky me eh. But Janice did some detective work for me and managed to get the minutes of the meeting from the builder, Coral etc and it explained it all. I dont have this any more because of computer crash but Janice might have it in her outlook from around this time last year.

Just a thought, and maybe Janet can ask Janice, too many J's eh Janet?

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I was always under the impression that at least some sort of Licence HAD to be obtained before construction could commence.
Yes, that´s right. And yet, in this instance, it appears not to have been the case ... and it wouldn´t be the first time

As I say, someone must know something, and since everyone is claiming to know nothing, someone must be being economical with the truth ... at best

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I almost purchased there, but a the last minute "Janice" at Horizon went with the valuer to look at the property and it was all shut up.Lucky me eh. But Janice did some detective work for me and managed to get the minutes of the meeting from the builder, Coral etc and it explained it all. I dont have this any more because of computer crash but Janice might have it in her outlook from around this time last year.
And this was the first we´d heard of any problem there, and pulled you out immediately, Tom ... and took every last Comp 3 off our books there and then.

Look, everyone, we have some information that I simply cannot publish here, because it has been confidentially provided, and also the supply would dry up instantly if we made it obvious what we knew ... because that would demonstrate how we knew it. In essence, though, it revolves around the fact that there will be an Emergency General Meeting on the 17th March with various items on the Agenda.

One will be a report on the the state of affairs at present in the complex ... apparently the electricity was disconnected again on the 26th February, having been only temporarily re-connected by Unelco. Also on the agenda will be a discussion of what is openly being called a "critical financial situation". The meeting will also discuss the options for legal action against the developers for irregularities in the construction of the complex, the possible crime of fraud, and defaults and debts accruing to the owners as a result of their ownership.


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Just a thought, and maybe Janet can ask Janice, too many J's eh Janet?
Yes indeed! And my Jeremy too ... !!
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