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Old 28th June 2007, 14:44   #1 (permalink)
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I wonder what the africans thought when they saw Christopher Columbus coming on his big ship - did they escort him back of the land as soon as he landed or did they welcome him and his crew with open arms only for Christopher to then sell them offas slaves


I wonder if the American indians thought the smae thign as well when we took over and now we all liek to preten we found America and Austrailia is only recognised as existing sdince we sent over all the criminals never mind the original people of Australia


I'm sure as well that if you all did a bit of research you will find out that the original people of the tenerife Island were called Guanches and they were killed off - now these people were black and were the original people of the islands before the spanish conquest so leave them alone,


yes they are annoying the lucky lukcy men but so are the bleeign british PRS they are bigger pains and the Scratchcard bigots that you have there


and leave the poor children alone - they have done nothing to you the only thing they are getting away wiht is stayign alive and not being used as sex slaves
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I wonder what the africans thought when they saw Christopher Columbus coming on his big ship - did they escort him back of the land as soon as he landed or did they welcome him and his crew with open arms only for Christopher to then sell them offas slaves


I wonder if the American indians thought the smae thign as well when we took over and now we all liek to preten we found America and Austrailia is only recognised as existing sdince we sent over all the criminals never mind the original people of Australia


I'm sure as well that if you all did a bit of research you will find out that the original people of the tenerife Island were called Guanches and they were killed off - now these people were black and were the original people of the islands before the spanish conquest so leave them alone,


yes they are annoying the lucky lukcy men but so are the bleeign british PRS they are bigger pains and the Scratchcard bigots that you have there


and leave the poor children alone - they have done nothing to you the only thing they are getting away wiht is stayign alive and not being used as sex slaves
Hi Fatima

I get your point, but it is factually incorrect

1. When Christopher Columbus landed in Gran Canaria it was already under spanish rule.

2. The Guanches where NOT black, they were tanned many having blonde hair and blue eyes, and very tall.
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Old 28th June 2007, 15:40   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Fatima

I get your point, but it is factually incorrect

1. When Christopher Columbus landed in Gran Canaria it was already under spanish rule.

2. The Guanches where NOT black, they were tanned many having blonde hair and blue eyes, and very tall.
thanks for that but i am actaully quoting from a book on the history of Tenerfie

"The natives of Tenerife where known as the bravest and most feared from the canary inhabitants. They were cavern men and they balsamated their deceased people in caves and prayed for their peaceful rest.
From the rests of mummies we can afirm the northwest african origin. Likewise from some vestiges from spoken and written language which made the conquest of the spaniards over the Guanches much more difficult. A few years ago a stone was found. It has the symbols 'Z(a)N(a)T(a)' engraved on it, which suposedly has some sort of a connection to the same name with a bereber origin. No definitive explication has been given until yet.
Likewise there are only theories and speculations of the way the Guanches even arrived the first time to the islands. European reports affirm that the natives did not have any knowledge about seecraft. It is also very peculiar that there were not even connections between the very near island of La Gomera and Tenerife. Another mistery is why the Guanches did not make any evolution in time despite the many visits from the Fenician, Punician and Romans"

The Spanish conquest
500 years ago the spanish conqueror Alonso Fernández de Lugo arrived at the bay of Añaza (todays harbour of Santa Cruz). The royal house ordered him to submit the last bastion of the canary natives. But the Guanches proved themselves as very brave and audacious as related by some chronists.
Bencomo, the king of Raoro (today La Orotava) the mightiest of all nine kings, congregated all his warriors and enticed the intruders to the Bay of Acentejo. 2.000 compatriots of the spanish crown fell and 'de Lugo' was seriously injured.

This happend on the 31st of May of 1494. Since then the town of the massacre is called La Matanza (the slaughter). Today besides the motorway there is a huge stone wall painting with a Guanche blowing the victory signal through a horn in the place of the massacre. One and a half years later, the 25th of December of 1495 and after the stench plague which weakened the Guanches the spanish crown finally conquered Tenerife.

For a long time the extermination of a nation and all it's culture was held in secret and always denied. Under the mandate of 'Franco' it was even forbidden to talk about it. A few years ago a Rennaisance started and now even Guanches names are being registrated on streets. Families with the surname 'Oramas' are proud again of their name and tell about their ancestor 'Juan Oramas' a grandson of the King 'Doramas de Guanarteme' who was killed in Gran Canaria.

In Candelaria, the memory of the last nine Kings was kept alive by Lava made statues at the beach in front of the Basílica. The pass of time and especially the erosion corroded and destroyed partially these statues.

A few years ago the native artist 'José Abad' from 'La Laguna' made 7 bronze statues with royal sceptres, stone weapons, wood spears, slings and other symbolic objects. The proud Menceys as witnesses of the polemic times of discoverers.

After the victory over the Guanches, de Lugo constructed in 1496 the Metropolis of 'San Cristobal de La Laguna' beside a lagoon which was about seven kilometres away from the bay of 'Añaza'. In 1723 the government's mandate changed to the harbour city of Santa Cruz. The colonialist city from late Middle ages which would be later the University and Bishops city remained uncommunicative to foreigners. All the modern tourism ran into the walls of the city each time - but not in real walls because La Laguna was the first spanish establishment without citywalls. Short before it's 500th birthday La Laguna woke up, remembers the historical values, and opens it's doors; untill now the events of the Guanches Era have been obscured and since last year the Museum of History of Tenerife is open to visitors. This collection is placed in a renovated villa from the nobleman Lercaro.
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There's a bronze statue not far from where I live, in Icod El Alto (Mirador de Lance). It commemorates the spot where Mencey Bentor threw himself off the cliff, not being able to deal with the loss of freedom of his people...

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I also thought that experts recently doubted that the Guanches were in fact blonde with blue eyes... I might be mistaken, but I vaguely recall reading it somewhere last year. Don't know where though...
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2. The Guanches where NOT black, they were tanned many having blonde hair and blue eyes, and very tall.
Bit like me really then.... although the blond hair has went a different colour...
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