No-smoking laws discussion thread

[robby1234]

hi all

just to find out what others think.

i am a smoker and i have no objection to the no-smoking in public laws that have been passed in many countries.

i do complain that most contries took away the choice from all parties(the smokers the non-smokers and the people whose business this applied too)
the choice should still exist if you take the choice away why still sell the offending product.

what i do complain about strongly are the adverts on tv about the poisons and health risks involved with smoking and it´s effect on health services.

if smoking and the sale of smoking related products stopped world wide nearly all national health services would crumble and stop unless the goverments added 5% extra onto the national health stamps that we pay.

it would take me my whole life smoking from birth to death 24 hours a day to create the poisons and enviromental pollution of a 1 ltr car going to the shop to get the morning paper ONCE but do they ban cars.

it would take every one on tenerife doing the same to create the poisons and pollution of generating the electricity of tenerife for ONE WEEK but do they ban fossil fuel power generation or the products that use the electricity.

the sharp growth in child asthma and lung dissorders has been proven to be linked to enviroments pollution which is also a very large drain on our health services but do the ban the use of petrol.

the big argument is that we are smoking in an enclosed space and effecting every one there.
sorry to say this but our little planet is an enclosed space.

so please just to make me feel better when i am outside having a puff don´t use you´re car unless you really need to.
try and get a car that pollutes less.
turn of the lights and all electrical products when you don´t need them.
get solar power for you´re home.
make a difference while it is still you´re choice to do so.

have fun every one i am going for a puff now.

[Mike]

Interesting point about too many lights being left on.
Our house has just be clad in scaffolding prior to having the brickwork re-pointed and the immediate consequence is lack of light, particularly bad at this time of the year.
My wife has suspected for several years that she suffers from SAD, and this has been confirmed by apparently increased symptoms due to the artificially reduced light in our home.
She looked on the web and found a 'solution' £300 light box!
Cheaper to move to Tenerife for the winter!

[robby1234]

cheers for the reply mike.

i also suffer from SAD one of the few reasons i moved here but when i was a kid my parents fitted out my room and the bathroom with those heater bulbs you can get from places like b&q also uv strip lighting helps as in some cases the symptoms are caused by lack of vit d(i think may be wrong)which the skin produces from sunlight(uv exposure like getting a tan).

hope this helps a little.

[irishmusico]

Originally Posted by robby1234

the big argument is that we are smoking in an enclosed space and effecting every one there.
sorry to say this but our little planet is an enclosed space.

Hi Robby.Plenty of points to discuss here but I picked the one that affects me the most.
As a smoker,albeit not a big one.I don't tend to smoke till after I am finished singing at work.at 1.30am.I have been working in smoky bars for 25 years,and I never realised until it was banned,how bad the air quality was in the pubs I was working in.I never gave a single thought to non smokers when I was having a puff.Now having breathed the fresh air,I think that it is a brilliant idea.

[Mike]

But to get back to the original theme, no-smoking laws, I think places where non-smokers and smokers are contained, as it were, in restaurants and etc, are to a degree essential, but there have been attempts to ban smoking in all public places which is about as good as banning sneezing in Tibet for the benefit of people in New York!
I am a non-smoker but I used to smoke so I can appreciate both sides of the argument.
When smoking infringes on my rights I think I have an argument but there is also an argument for the smoker's rights too.
Now that may seem crazy to some people but there has to be give and take.

[robby1234]

thanks for the replies.

irish i do agree a pollution free work place is great but it is simple enough to fit very good extraction of course using solar power to run it this will also cause movement of air from outside to inside which means the aircon isn´t needed as much saving more power and more money.

and mike i agree with the no-smoking policy what i don´t agree with is the forced removal of choice.

[JHK]

Hi

With reference to the non smoking policy I am a non smoker but feel everyone should have a choice, there should be bars that allow smoking and bars that don't. Therefore if you are a non smoker as I am I could choose to go into a smoking pub if i wish.

Went to Ireland a couple of years ago and you couldn't smoke in the bars etc (my hubby and friends all smoked) the pub was empty as everyone was in a shed outside smoking, the pub lost it's atmosphere cos everyone was outside!

I agree it's lovely coming back from a place and not smelling of smoke but it should be up to the individual to choose.

Anyway that's just want I think

[maybelline]

What is quite extroadinary,about the smokin ban in Tenerife,that if your bar is under a certain square footage you are able to smoke inside.
Confused ........smaller area, more smoke being polluted

I am a smoker,its just i cant work that one out

Maybelline

[kaza]

Being a smoker i'm not that happy with the new smoking ban that is being put in place from april, I agree with no smoking policys in resturants, I don't like smoke when i'm eating,as for the pubs give us smokers a break please why don't they introduce smoke room's like they had years ago and give us a choice not treat us like we have the plage

[supernoodle]

I'm not a smoker and I have an irritating habit of putting people down who do smoke (I know I shouldn't) Nearly all my family smoke but not many friends do, it's nice for us to go out to places and come back without having to fabreeze our clothes afterwards. I don't mind smoke rooms as when it's winter time and someone needs a cig I dont think they would want to stand out in the freezing rain to do so.

What does annoy me is the workplace policy, we get a bollocking if we go inside the office to steal 5 mins for a cuppa tea to warm up (most of us are outside all day) Yet every hour people from the office go for 5 mins for a cigarette. Now I know there's a difference between a craving you need to satisfy and wanting a cuppa, but when it's freezing outside sometimes I overlook that difference