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View Poll Results: Do you think your weight should be included in your baggage allowance?
Yes 23 48.94%
No 20 42.55%
I'm not sure. 1 2.13%
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Old 8th September 2008, 12:35   #21 (permalink)
 
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The way forward, methinks...
Not in this world of discrimination it isn't.
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Old 8th September 2008, 12:45   #22 (permalink)
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Do you think your weight should be included....

Look at the title DJ: it says 'YOUR weight' which is precisely what it is! Weight is personal unless it inflicts on others. I was being a little facetious about the clothes but it is logical too if you are spending six weeks in a cold temperature you will need much more than in a hot country and what about the extras you need for babies when travelling as mentioned by another member?

Maybe there should be a weight/height limit which has to be declared when booking but only over an extraordinary weight which may encroach onto an extra seat. The person crossing this line should then pay the extra for another seat or there should be larger seats, a set number for each flight.

Generally people should not have to reveal their weight.
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Not in this world of discrimination it isn't.
That sounds like sarcasm, so I guess you mean to say "Not in this anal-retentive-politically-correct day and age"?

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Look at the title DJ: it says 'YOUR weight' which is precisely what it is! Weight is personal unless it inflicts on others. I was being a little facetious about the clothes but it is logical too if you are spending six weeks in a cold temperature you will need much more than in a hot country and what about the extras you need for babies when travelling as mentioned by another member?

Maybe there should be a weight/height limit which has to be declared when booking but only over an extraordinary weight which may encroach onto an extra seat. The person crossing this line should then pay the extra for another seat or there should be larger seats, a set number for each flight.

Generally people should not have to reveal their weight.
Aircraft using more fuel because of peoples weight DOES inflict on others, so we should all pay for our weight.

Point taken on the clothing, it was my misinterpretation.

And there should definitely be an alllowance for babies extras, which would be very easy to determine.

I still don't see why weight should be such a personal issue, and why it's wrong for people to reveal their weight? I weigh about ninety five kilos, and I couldn't care less what anybody thinks of that. I did suggest that the scales display is situated so that it can only be viewed by the teller and the client.

Also, if you can afford to pay for a six week holiday, you should be able to pay for your weight!

Simple to run a few trials as well.

Check-in Baggage is already weighed, yeah?
So install a scales at the desk of one company running one particular route, on both ends, so that they can ascertain the total weight of flight crew, passengers and hand luggage per flight.
Spend a month or two doing this on every flight, and also measure the amount of fuel used per flight, then you can calculate how much fuel, in real terms, each kilo costs to fly.
Price is based on that from a certain date onwards.
With technology these days, you could even have the scales set-up so that they don't display the weight of the individual to the teller, unless the weight is over what the customer had stated it to be.

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I guess the weights don´t need to be exact, it can be as simple as have a number of categories 75-85kg etc etc depending on what category you fall into then that´s what you pay plus whatever for luggage.....I also do not understand why people are so touchy about weight. I mean someone who is 15 stone looks like they weigh 15 stone.
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Do you think your weight should be included....

OK. The 'trial' is a really good idea. A comparison should be made to find out how much fuel can be saved. This would illustrate widely the need for us to be more supportive of the bodyweight/ fuel costs issue. Most of us want to keep flying so must accept some restrictions.

The idea about the 'secret scales' only recording those who are overweight is a good one in my view. Sadly people will not always accept the results and I can see angry would-be travellers quarrelling that the airport scales aren't right etc.

People do get tense when queuing at airports e.g. my flight yesterday. Some people didn't queue in the non-priority line and were turned away at the gate. When their correct line was admitted they pushed in front of all those who had been waiting. There was an angry furore.

Imagine how some people would behave if they were told they were overweight and their home scales said differently? I'm sure there are many who would cause a huge delay by not wishing to pay.

Some people can't help their weight through tablets, disability etc. For many it is a very sensitive issue.
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Imagine how some people would behave if they were told they were overweight and their home scales said differently? I'm sure there are many who would cause a huge delay by not wishing to pay.

Some people can't help their weight through tablets, disability etc. For many it is a very sensitive issue.
If they don't want to pay, great, they don't get on, and the rest of us who aren't idiots get two seats each!

How could somebody with even half a brain expect their five Euro scales from Argos to be a fraction as accurate as an industrial standard model, designed for weighing heavy loads and designed for accuracy and reliability?

I understand the disability issue - a very good freind of mine suffers from extreme depression, and his medication makes him put on weight, and quite a bit of it, BUT, no disrespect to him, he does almost no Goddamn exercise to fight the weight.

He stayed with me recently, and would never use the stairs to my apartment, only the lift. When we went to Mercadona, he wouldn't take the stairs with me, but the escalator. When we went down to Torviscas, I'd walk and he'd get the bus.

All in all, I think people should be paying for the fuel that they use, instead of others paying for them. And that IS what it boils down to. If a flight uses a certain amount of fuel, the cost is spread among the passengers. At the moment, a passenger who weighs 75kg, sitting beside me, is paying for ten kilos of my 95kg weight.
That's unfair.

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what about someone who needs a wheelchair do they have to pay more?
also what if the plane is half full do we get a refund?
where does it stop,extra baggage,speedy boarding,a charge to sit next to each other,xtra for a meal,why dont they bring back the days of one price for everthing meals weight ect,after all its ment to be the start of your holiday and should be a enjoyable exsperince,flying is more a pain in the arse than its ever been.
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Do you think your weight should be included....

Another option would be for sensible price for all to cover all plane costs then what about having a 'reward scheme?' It would be far less upsetting. If you and your baggage are under the allowance then you would get points towards a future flight like air miles.

Thinking further, there may still be problems as the overweight person might object to being constantly penalised. If you are seriously depressed this would still detract from (Young Golfer's words) the fact that a holiday should be enjoyable.
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so whats next a taxi puts up the price so does a bus a train,a ship why not i ask, whats good for one should be good for the other im not sure but do the others charge for this i think not.
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That sounds like sarcasm, so I guess you mean to say "Not in this anal-retentive-politically-correct day and age"?
Pretty close

The fact is if you try to charge one person more than the next for the same service (regardless of how logical the argument is) then someone is going pull the discrimination card.

You can just imagine it can't you, an 18yr old, size 10 gorgeous blonde with implants gets charged £100 for a ticket, but a 48yr old, size 24 black woman gets charged £150

Not gonna happen is it?
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