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Old 4th September 2008, 13:49   #1 (permalink)
 
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So, is it true.....

Somebody has posted on Facebook, the the Mods on here read PM's...

Now then, I know this subject has been raised before, and personally, I don't believe they do. However, as this accusation has been placed in such a public arena this time, I'd like to know what TF's stance on this is...

Also, if you are reading them, could you also answer some of mine for me please... they're mounting up
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Old 4th September 2008, 14:01   #2 (permalink)
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Old 4th September 2008, 14:30   #5 (permalink)
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I presume this is in regard to a certain member being banned yesterday for key words and phrases that were in a PM.

I replied to a PM earlier from a family member of this particular banned member explaining that we now have a new anti-spamming measure in place that detects certain spam keywords and phrases in PM's and automatically bans people if they are found. Zarion is then notified by automatic email that a ban has been placed, so we knew the ban had happened yesterday.

Obviously these are very specific phrases, as we would not want people getting banned unfairly left right and centre... and this particular person had used the specific name of another forum which must have been in conjunction with other key words in order to be picked up.

I did convey to the family member of the banned person that in order to appeal the ban all they had to do is forward the original PM to Zarion as proof that it does not contain anything untoward and the ban will be lifted immediately, as we have not seen and cannot see contents of PM's unless they are sent to us... however if something has been posted on facebook, then this indicates to me that the spam filter was correct I can therefore only put it down to bitterness that they have been found out that it has been posted on facebook.

As far as this forum is concerned though, if a member who has not posted in months is coming on here to spam other members, then the ban is justified, as spamming is against T&C's and the member obviously does not want to participate anymore, otherwise they would have posted over the past few months.

I have not seen the PM, nor has anyone else, so obviously if the person in question is innocent, then forwarding the original PM will not only clear their name, but also help us revise keywords and phrases so that a mistake doesn't happen again.

Somehow though, I don't expect that to happen... so I would just ignore it.
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Even if the mods DID read PMs, who cares?
Surely anybody with half a brain is aware that, at the end of the day, the whole forum, not just the PM function, is simply long strings of I's and O's?
If something is truly sensitive, you wouldn't transmit it in such a manner, would you?
Anyhow, I believe Kirsty, and others, have written several times in the past that they CANNOT read PMs, unless they are sent directly to them.
Thank's for bringing it to our attention, Max, as we can laugh at whoever it was publically on Facebook, for having the mentality of a three year old...
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Just to put our minds at rest, Kirsty, I presume these spam words relate only to other fora names, for instance - I remember Holiday Truths ***** out the name of this forum in pm's many moons ago.

No doubt we can still privately say anything else without fear of Big Brother.
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Just to put our minds at rest, Kirsty, I presume these spam words relate only to other fora names, for instance - I remember Holiday Truths ***** out the name of this forum in pm's many moons ago.

No doubt we can still privately say anything else without fear of Big Brother.
You can say anything you wish!... in fact you probably do!!!

I do not personally know what keywords & phrases are included as yet, as it was only implemented the other day. I will ask in the mod section later though and let you know.

I would presume that it's only other fora and key phrases to do with selling porn or rolex, iphone, viagra etc that we often find in spam that comes on the forum. Regular members don't get to see the spam, as that is auto-modded too, however we get loads of it Being so high on google for even the keyword 'tenerife' means we get targetted by a lot by spambots.

It is strings of words as phrases, rather than individual words though, as some spam words can be used quite harmlessly in posts & PM's and this is the only way to differentiate using automatic measures between real spam and normal conversations.

Personally I welcome the measure, as it prevents people abusing the forum for personal gain - which is ultimately not what the forum is about. We still get the odd thing slip through though, as there are current investigations underway of people harvesting emails from members and sending out spam advertising via this method, so if you don't want any spam in your inbox, please make sure you email address is not public in your options. This also includes MSN, Yahoo Messenger & Skype too.

We try our best to prevent it, but there still seems to be some slipping through the net.
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