| | General Chat Chat about anything non-Tenerife related here |  | | 30th August 2008, 11:08 | #11 (permalink) | | Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forfar Gender: Posts: 80 My Mood: | human rights Can Toyboy be a bit more specific about which decisions he refers to that affects his lifestlye ? As far as I can see the main problem that is currently affecting all our lifestyles has been caused by the greedy money grabbing parasites who currently run our banks | | | 30th August 2008, 11:52 | #12 (permalink) | | Tenerifian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: El Desierto, Granadilla Gender: Posts: 147 | Well, I'd like to sue the British Government at the moment too, because they won't let me take my money! I've been resident in Tenerife for 20 years, pay Tenerife taxes and into the Tenerife Health System. When I retire I will receive my pension from the Spanish government. I have a very small private pension fund in Uk, currently stands at just under 4,000 pounds. It was frozen when I left UK as I was told that not being a Uk resident I couldn't contribute to it further. They also informed that when I was 55 I could have the money. Now I'm desperate for a bit of cash and being 57 I thought great I'll take my pension fund, but they won't let me have it!! Seems the British Government's ruling is that I can only have 1/4 of it at this time and if I take that (+/-950 pounds) now I have to sign an agreement saying I'll accept the other 3/4 paid to me when I'm 60 at 194 pounds PER YEAR!!! Or otherwise wait another 3 years and I can take it all (minus 20% tax!) when I'm 60. I'm sure you'll all agree that 194 pounds a year is much the same as nothing. Plus I need to live 'till I'm at least 75 to recuperate back my money. So the obvious choice is to wait. But meantime I can't afford to buy even a half decent car, and no car means no work, which will eventually mean an unpaid mortgage and I will lose my home!! Now I can understand the reasoning behind this rule, as people may be tempted to fritter their pension and then live off the state. But surely there should be some means to appeal for cases such as mine. I'm never going to be living off the British state (well if they gave me my money I wouldn't, but if I lose my home I may be forced back there) All my pension monies are in Spain, I'm nothing to do with England anymore. It seems they're happy to exempt you from things as a non resident but when the balls on the other foot suddenly you are under the same rules as a UK resident!! __________________ Men will spend their health getting wealth. Then, gladly pay all they have earned to get health back. | | | 30th August 2008, 13:28 | #13 (permalink) | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Adeje, Tenerife, Espana Gender: Posts: 2,150 | Lots of factors contributing to society crumbling around the world. People wanting to take and not give, being the main one. Problem: No disrespect to single parents who try to do their best intended, but a single parent family has to make sacrifices. Either work, and don't spend enough time raising your own child, or don't work, and live off everybody else. They just can't win. Solution: Create some sort of licencing scheme and minimum age limit before people are permitted to have children. Result: More balanced children growing up, spawning more balanced children themselves. Problem: Substance use (alcohol included). If people want something, they are going to get it. Solution: Legalise every Goddamned drug known to man, regulate production and distribution. Alcohol has been destroying families for years. Why is it even legal, let alone socially acceptable, and all of the other drugs are not? Result: Bye bye to gun crime. Can you imagine the manager of Boots shooting the manager of another pharmacy over their delivery of methadone? Problem: Lack of cultural integration at an early age. Solution: Force children of different faiths to be schooled together, and ban religion from the schools. Result: Children learn to accept other children as just that, children, not their enemy for life, or anything like that. Problem: Lack of real deterrent for criminals. Prisons can be like hospitals, and serial killers can be molly-coddled and "understood" better through caring. What a load of B*****. Solution: More CCTV cameras, more DNA testing at birth. Death penalty for rape and murder. Bread and water diet for twenty years for theft or assault. Result: Combined with no more drug wars, less crime. Problem: Tossers suing each other all of the time. Solution: Sentence all lawyers to death and start over. Result: Nobody is able to sue anybody else for at least another twenty five years. I could waffle on and on... The British government does what it can to stay popular. The strategies that I mention above are not overnight vote-winners. Would you really vote for me if I said that I was going to implement the above, AND reduce wages, force more productive and flexible work practises, then in forty years time, reduce taxes and reap the rewards? Be honest. No, you bloody well wouldn't. You'll vote for whoever says they can build 240,000 houses a year without damaging some abandoned field somewhere, before they have to make more crazy promises four years later... So I guess the solution is, elect me as some sort of emperor, or move to a remote island and live alone on nuts and berries until you die. __________________ Don't click To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ! My To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. pages! | | | 30th August 2008, 15:08 | #14 (permalink) | | Super Tenerifian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle & Torviscas Gender: Posts: 795 My Mood: | If you don´t like the people in charge vote them out __________________ Studio for long let (12 month) in Los Cristianos, 400 euro per month plus bills (~30 euro). Sky TV, Heated pool, off street parking, 24hr security. Let till JUNE 2009 | | | 30th August 2008, 19:10 | #15 (permalink) | | Tenerifian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tenerife Gender: Posts: 119 | Quote: Originally Posted by AngusJim Can Toyboy be a bit more specific about which decisions he refers to that affects his lifestlye ? As far as I can see the main problem that is currently affecting all our lifestyles has been caused by the greedy money grabbing parasites who currently run our banks | Well not so long ago the government ran our banks and they dictated the interest rate  Now its the banks and they want to make money. Next it will be the judicial system who run the country(or did i get it wrong,they do already do ) The country is run by idiots who have no idea what it means to help people apart from themselves. What has the present government done to help you? All my friends who voted LABOUR (funny word that) are now having to work till they are dead  My original question still stands. Only because of the last 10 years my family have lost our minimal life stile. We are not by any means loaded and now its getting worse. And i do live in tenerife,because we do want a better life. BUT its harder to work here because not many people can afford to have holidays and spend their money. So, why cant i sue them for loss of revenue because of their bad desisions  Sorry to open a can of worms,but i want to sue the worms who have made this happen.  Hope not t offend anyone with just my opinion | | | 30th August 2008, 19:34 | #16 (permalink) | | Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Americas Gender: Posts: 71 My Mood: | Quote: Originally Posted by viv55 Well, I'd like to sue the British Government at the moment too, because they won't let me take my money! I've been resident in Tenerife for 20 years, pay Tenerife taxes and into the Tenerife Health System. When I retire I will receive my pension from the Spanish government. I have a very small private pension fund in Uk, currently stands at just under 4,000 pounds. It was frozen when I left UK as I was told that not being a Uk resident I couldn't contribute to it further. They also informed that when I was 55 I could have the money. Now I'm desperate for a bit of cash and being 57 I thought great I'll take my pension fund, but they won't let me have it!! Seems the British Government's ruling is that I can only have 1/4 of it at this time and if I take that (+/-950 pounds) now I have to sign an agreement saying I'll accept the other 3/4 paid to me when I'm 60 at 194 pounds PER YEAR!!! Or otherwise wait another 3 years and I can take it all (minus 20% tax!) when I'm 60. I'm sure you'll all agree that 194 pounds a year is much the same as nothing. Plus I need to live 'till I'm at least 75 to recuperate back my money. So the obvious choice is to wait. But meantime I can't afford to buy even a half decent car, and no car means no work, which will eventually mean an unpaid mortgage and I will lose my home!! Now I can understand the reasoning behind this rule, as people may be tempted to fritter their pension and then live off the state. But surely there should be some means to appeal for cases such as mine. I'm never going to be living off the British state (well if they gave me my money I wouldn't, but if I lose my home I may be forced back there) All my pension monies are in Spain, I'm nothing to do with England anymore. It seems they're happy to exempt you from things as a non resident but when the balls on the other foot suddenly you are under the same rules as a UK resident!! | I would like to thank you for your comments Viv. Me and My Hubby also have Private Pensions taken out in the Uk. Mine also should mature when Iam 55 (Only 4 years to go. I think I will take your comments and actually make enquiries about my own situation. If they say the same to me as they have to you I will join you in being extremely ****ed Off Last edited by KirstyJay; 1st September 2008 at 02:57. | | | 30th August 2008, 23:18 | #17 (permalink) | | Tenerifian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tenerife Gender: Posts: 119 | DJ Dangerous, you got my vote  what a speech  can you just clarify one important point for me: what kind of nuts are they? toyboys wife | | | 31st August 2008, 15:27 | #18 (permalink) | | Super Tenerifian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: dry and freezing Cornwall Gender: Posts: 290 My Mood: | Quote: Originally Posted by liamward If you don´t like the people in charge vote them out | and you think that would make a difference? all parties are basically the same just with different names and "slightly" different policies - with only one objective - of getting in power. In the constituency where I live there will never be a labour mp only tory or liberal democrat yet we still have to put up with the government of the day which ever that is. I have worked for Tory and Labour governments and trust me theyre just the same in the end - none of them knows how to run a country properly cos theyre in it for themselves - just look at where the previous pms have ended up . | | | 31st August 2008, 16:51 | #19 (permalink) | | Tenerifian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tenerife Gender: Posts: 194 | Frankly I am amazed at these posts. How can anyone seriously criticise the English Government. The last 11 years have been incredibly successful & continue to be so. This is the best administration in history, yet here we have people a bit unhappy. It is probably pointless highlighting all the wonderful things New Labour has achieved, but we have never been better off. Just a couple of thoughts on the NHS. Why even now in somewhat straightened world circumstances the English people can afford & are delighted to pay over £7 for prescriptions, whilst our neighbours cannot & don`t spend a penny. And last week it was revealed that the English dont want the blindess saving drugs that are freely available elsewhere. If that is not the sign of a well off society I dont know what is. No, I`m afraid some people have got it all wrong. Please listen to Mr. Brown on immigration, policing, NHS, education, the Economy, foreign wars, greenhouse taxes, unemployment, pension fund raiding, lying & cheating MP`s, vote rigging,devolution etc., etc. and you will soon become aware of how good things really really are in Britain. | | | 31st August 2008, 17:10 | #20 (permalink) | | Super Tenerifian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle & Torviscas Gender: Posts: 795 My Mood: | yes of course voting makes a difference, if you don´t like the way a country is run do something about it instead of just whinging about it __________________ Studio for long let (12 month) in Los Cristianos, 400 euro per month plus bills (~30 euro). Sky TV, Heated pool, off street parking, 24hr security. 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