Drive to the shop's and save the planet!!!

kaza · 7th August 2007, 21:53

I can't quite believe what I read today, it was written by a member of the Green Party

He's telling us to do things that we have been told not to do by the tree huggers in order to save the planet

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2195538.ece

Have a good read

and tell us your opinion

robby1234 · 7th August 2007, 22:23

funny but correct if you don´t calculate the pollution caused by the drilling and refinery proccesses and other enviromental fallout.

and the fact that they only refer to co2 is pure madness.

here´s another worry

if we suddenly stop using cars and planes we could help global warming go right over the edge much sooner.

all transport puts lots of different chemicals and gases into the atmosphere but it also puts solids there too and according to research done after 911 when the planes were grounded they found a very large reduction in reflective particals in the upper atmoshpere which was being exuasted from the planes.
this pollution was reflecting sun light before it gets under the gas layer and when it goes it will allow more solar energy to be trapped by the gases.

there is another problem that has never been mention´d before!!!

what do the oil and gas companies use to replace the oil and gas that they remove from the ground every day air and sometimes water thats what.

i am sorry but don´t we need these to live.

everyone has seen the effects of mines collapsing what happens when an undersea oil field collapses.

a very big tusanami at the least.

were not leaving our kids a planet but a floating swiss cheese that reeks.

who would be interested in this.

i will power your home and give you a fuel free car and make enought electricity for you to sell to the electricity company to pay it all off in ten years

so no leccy bill
no petrol bill
and an income
no more power stations
no fossil fuels used except to product the hardware in the first place.
guarenteed and maintained for 10 years.

all for 30000 pounds (remember it will pay it´s self off inside the 10 years period)

give me 1 to 2 years and it will be available.

taking advanced orders if your interested.

kaza · 7th August 2007, 22:35

WOW rob on your soap box again are you

Also did you know it takes 400 gallons of oil to feed and clothe one American for a year

Mike · 7th August 2007, 22:38

So that's why the Americans are obese!

robby1234 · 7th August 2007, 22:40

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Originally Posted by kaza

WOW rob on your soap box again are you

Also did you know it takes 400 gallons of oil to feed and clothe one American for a year

wow kaza that should be in the useless thread.

thinks thats bad it takes 10 fish to make a liter bottle of spirits or 20 fishes to make a barrel of beer.

they use the fish oils to filter out impurities(thanks have to goto realsabranova for this one).

kaza · 7th August 2007, 22:43

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Originally Posted by robby1234

wow kaza that should be in the useless thread.

thinks thats bad it takes 10 fish to make a liter bottle of spirits or 20 fishes to make a barrel of beer.

they use the fish oils to filter out impurities(thanks have to goto realsabranova for this one).

Please don't say I got fish in my Vodka

robby1234 · 7th August 2007, 23:04

not in your vodka but used to make it clear.

macbee48 · 7th August 2007, 23:52

Here's one I can't get my head round.

The new WEE (Waste Electrical & Electronics) regulations tell us that we have to recycle a lot of electrical stuff and not just skip it. I believe this is to benefit the environment and avoid putting all this stuff into landfill.

Now here's the bit i'm having trouble with. My employer, Homebase, now collects all the electrical gubbins, faulty returns mostly, and puts them in a big diesel lorry and takes them to the docks where they go onto a huge diesel ship which crosses the Irish sea where they go onto another big diesel lorry which takes them to our depot in England for re-cycling.

Someone please explain to me how the environment benefits from this process?

Synchronicity · 9th August 2007, 14:03

That article is so full of BS. Obviously devised by a politician...

They're saying that the production of food creates greenhouse gases. BUT WE HAVE TO EAT ANYWAY!!

Have they even bothered to subtract those figures from the energy expenditure calculations? What about bicycles??? EH?

They're clearly overlooking something very major.
How many emissions etc are produced in the car manufacturing process??? EH? Answer: Lots more than a pair of sneakers.

I think the article was devised by a bunch of people trying to justify that their way of life doesn't affect the planet- which is total lies. We all have to do what we can. We have to act now. We should've acted yesterday.

As soon as you start saying to yourself: "why bother buying green globes if I'm going to offset that carbon footprint by buying imported vegetables instead...?" you realise that most people are losing hope. I'm normally optimistic, but these people actually contribute to my recent pessimistic slant. I reckon society is just gonna start deteriorating if these trends are anything to go by. Probably a bigger danger to us now than what the environment will be is the pathetic, apathetic social attitude of some people. On the same lines: Why bother planting a tree; only going to add to the methane emissions. Why don't we all just neck ourselves now then?

What sort of hope are we instilling in the next generation??? With thoughts like those, no wonder everyone is taking prozac.

welshsprout · 9th August 2007, 18:21

OK the facts and figures in the article may well be right but as Synchronicity points out what are they NOT telling us?

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Originally Posted by Synchronicity

As soon as you start saying to yourself: "why bother buying green globes if I'm going to offset that carbon footprint by buying imported vegetables instead...?"

OK you buy the "green" light bulb you save 10lbs of CO2 emissions (I have no idea about real figures here) and then you buy the "imported veg" you expend 10lbs of CO2 emissions.
The sum: -
Buy Green Bulb: -10lbs
Buy Imported veg: +10lbs
Balance: 0lbs
or
Don't buy Green Bulb: +10lbs
Buy Imported veg: +10lbs
Balance: 20lbs
Conclusion buying the "green bulb" saves 20lbs effectively, so whenever you buy green you get a saving by use and an additional saving of what you would have expended using a non green product. Any saving you make is worth the effort.

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Originally Posted by robby1234

funny but correct if you don´t calculate the pollution caused by the drilling and refinery proccesses and other enviromental fallout.

And the expenditure getting all the equipment and personnel to site, come to that what of the cost in manufacturing all this specialised equipment, all the protective clothing etc etc