Elections are approaching. As a UK immigrant, do you expect better treatment and an acknowledgement of immigrant and tourist euros into the Island?
Should the native Canarians be suitably grateful for the new life immigrants have injected into the culture - or resentful of the need to accomodate non-Spanish speaking ex-pats, with their 'British bars' and isolated communities?
This is spawned from the PC thread BTW.
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Personally, I'm not grateful to anyone who does anything for me for their financial or personal gain ..... and I don't expect anyone to be grateful to me.
I am happy with and thankful to most of those people who do though.
I am enormously grateful to those who do something for me when they didn't have to. I am very grateful for those who took up poorly paid professions that basically help others, man or beast.
I'm grateful that there are still people who enjoy helping others... simply for the sake of helping others, like on this forum.
I thank the Lord for topless beaches too.
Edit: Sorry, Torrentor, misread the question and went off on one. But my reply can apply to Canarians and UK ex-pats though.
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Be right back when I can word it properly, thanks Torrenter
Ok here goes.
To be honest, why should we expect anything from the Canarians? As long as we don't take advantage of their welfare structure and as long as ex-pats support themselves and contribute to the island then I don't really see a problem.
As "aliens" we should do our upmost to intergrate wherever possible. If you intend to live on the island really and truely you should speak at least some Spanish, it's all about respect.
Respect in all areas, culture, religious beliefs and day to day courtesy I think are important. (Imagine that in the UK )
As for the Tourism Euros, well all money is good money. Who can say where the island would be without it but I would guess not as wealthy as it is now.
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Elections are approaching. As a UK immigrant, do you expect better treatment and an acknowledgement of immigrant and tourist euros into the Island?
Should the native Canarians be suitably grateful for the new life immigrants have injected into the culture - or resentful of the need to accomodate non-Spanish speaking ex-pats, with their 'British bars' and isolated communities?
This is spawned from the PC thread BTW.
love to see any candidate give telefonica some broadside treatment and sort em out to provide a decent service!!!
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To be honest, why should we expect anything from the Canarians? As long as we don't take advantage of their welfare structure and as long as ex-pats support themselves and contribute to the island then I don't really see a problem....
That's all very good in theory, Steve, however something to think about is this...
The 'expat' affluence has pushed up housing prices way beyond the means of the native Canarians... so you'll find that the only people that can afford to live in THEIR village are immigrants (such as Los Cristianos and Las Americas).
The Canarians have been pushed further and further from the resorts due to the fact that they can't afford the mortgage/rent in town and then they have to spend hours travelling on the buses that stop in the early evening (so they are restricted to day shifts) and only come every 2 hours (so their working day is stretched to 12 hours and they don't see their families)...
I can understand resentment when I do experience it... especially when directed at an expat that hasn't been bothered to learn even a little bit of their language.
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i agree to an extent that the ex-pat community is to blame for some of the woe´s in the canaries but(i fully expect to be lambasted for this) i place most of the blame on the housing market price rises on investment in property by people whe do not live in or contribute to this society.
i mean the people(of all countries)that by houses or appartments whilst still living in there own country and rent them out and hold onto them for capital gain and have no intention of ever living here.
i also blame the spanish for allowing this to happen mostly unchecked.
there is alot of money floating about tenerife in the housing market yet that money only stays in tenerife for a short time before it makes it´s way back to the country it came from in the first place(usually the length of time it takes to pay off the mortgage).
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No... actually, I'd agree with that.
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T The 'expat' affluence has pushed up housing prices way beyond the means of the native Canarians... so you'll find that the only people that can afford to live in THEIR village are immigrants (such as Los Cristianos and Las Americas).
The Canarians have been pushed further and further from the resorts due to the fact that they can't afford the mortgage/rent in town and then they have to spend hours travelling on the buses that stop in the early evening (so they are restricted to day shifts) and only come every 2 hours (so their working day is stretched to 12 hours and they don't see their families)...
I can understand resentment when I do experience it... especially when directed at an expat that hasn't been bothered to learn even a little bit of their language.
I understand what you are saying about house prices but its the same the world over young people in the U.K and all of Europe cannot get on the housing market its called market forces and cannot fully be blamed on immigrants. Without the sun and the Ex pat and immigrant population most of the wealth of the Island would disappear both in infrastructure,health,Hotels,Bars,Golf courses,and most service industries, schooling,policing and communications would not be as we know them. without immigrants who give services to there own kind (not just British) and in this I count all non Canarians the place would be 3rd world.
Look at Barcelona the property there is some of the most expensive in Europe and not mainly due to foreigners so we are not fully to blame although i admit we don't help....
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